May 21, 2009 Sam in the city’s confused take on feminism
It’s here, it’s there, it’s everywhere. Feminists and pole dancing, feminists and ugly bores, feminists neutering our manly men, feminists having changed society into one where the men are weak, meek, utterly unmanly. (Hi, has SHE been reading the news recently?)
She gives one example of one strong woman she knows who also wants the man to pay for dinner – not in reflection that men earn more than women and might care to recognise that occassionally by way of being a little generous at times – but cos she wants a ‘real man’ (and real men apparently foot the bills for food/wine/jewellery). Therefore it is proved: all feminists everywhere demand their men pay for dinners and are therefore hypocrites who deserve to be ignored (and are ruining men, sex and society).
Sam gives us some pearls of wisdom, telling us sadly that some feminists indeed bring their feminism from the boardroom to the bedroom (oh, holy end of the good sex life Batman! Except lookie here: it seems that feminists experienced more equality in relationships and that partners of feminists experienced greater relationship stability and greater sexual satisfaction than with non feminist partners – hat tip Rachel) and then:
Yet the biological truth is that in order for a relationship to have the necessary spark, sexual chemistry and va va voom, there needs to be masculine-feminine polarity – a balance whereby the man exudes masculinity and the woman femininity.
So same sex relationships don’t have that ‘necessary spark, sexual chemistry and va va voom’? Lesbians would be happier with men, gay men with women?
You wouldn’t know your biological arse from your biological elbow Sam.
So being a feminist means being masculine? Having any awareness of your own self worth is akin to having a great big cock? Insisting on decent treatment and noticing inequalities gives you chest hair? If you’re a feminist in a heterosexual relationship does that by Sam’s logic there are therefore two men in your bed, one in a woman’s body? Or that the feminist’s male partner is so ‘pussywhipped’ and ceaselessly ‘meek’ that he becomes the ‘feminine’ one (but that that polarity – of the ‘manly’ woman and the ‘womanly man’ is strictly of the NOOOOO BINGO variety for Sam). Please, your bigotry, lack of logic and bad writing is bumming me.
Masculinity and femininity as traditionally done equals good sex? The bedrock of a healthy happy society? Happy men, happy women, peace and calm across the land? Take a fucking look around. Think about last week’s news.
So far as I can see the majority of men defend their rights to ‘be men’ which rougly translates into being an overpriviledged thuggish arsehole to the death. They bitch and moan about the loss of traditional masculinity – usually in columns to FHM and Zoo. (Do you see where I’m going here). They bitch about it in workplaces with female employees (very few at senior management levels) treating their female coworkers as non people, of *course* their feminine brains accept their superior masculine logic, and their lack of acceptance would mean little seeing as how they have no penis and are therefore illogical beings. They bitch about it at family gatherings – goddamn it those FEMINISTS are ruining my fun – why CAN’T I holler out the side of my car at thirteen year old girls…look how they dress.
And yet…and yet rape stats, domestic violence stats, stalking stats, the amount of gendered abuse online, the male gaze in cinema, mens mags, jokes about fat chicks and feminists and wives are still in fucking GLORIOUS abundance are they not? What MARKERS of traditional masculinity are allegedly gone?
Men are still pushed in to competitive sports, ogling women in ways that objectify and demean them in order to bond with their mates, jokes about women and swallowing their feelings (which leak out in outraged screeching over The Big Nasty Feminists Are Trying To Take My Pee Pee Away) to be more stoic and manly. They’re still encouraged to look at their female partners as their ball and chain, still monitor each other with names like ‘pussy’ and ‘bitch’, still think they earn more because they’re better, still full of unexamined privilege and assumptions.
Women are still pushed into concerns over diets and makeup and hair and clothes and accessories, are still reading ‘The Rules’ and ‘He’s just not that into you’ (how IS that a feminist text Sam). We’re still in lower paid jobs, we’re still at risk of assualt from men we know and love, we still have to listen to sexist jokes in the workplace and watch the poor male host of a major show to examine ad culture can’t quite make the connections (oh, right, damn, fat chick jokes out the window – he actually asked for the list of people he could still make fun of…how’s about get some fucking comedy material?), we’re still emotionally battered with ‘if you don’t have a man, what have you got’, we’re still taught to smile when we’re angry, to laugh when we’re offended, to be nicey-nice-nice and to emotionally care take men.
Where exactly is the evidence of the feminists taking over? Of snivelling emasculated men slavering to gain the favour of the whip holding feminists? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Shut up.
Tags: Ask Sam, Sam in the City, Sam on feminism - getting it wrong all over again, stop discussing feminism til you read some fucking books
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Rachel Hills
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Riiiiight. Not that it’s the main reason most people identify as feminists, but wasn’t there a study last year showing that feminists have better sex than non-feminists? Yep – here we go.
And I don’t think I know any self-proclaimed feminists who ask their partners to pay for their dinner on any inequitable basis.
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fuckpoliteness
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Well yeah, that’s the thing, MY sex life has been vastly improved by feminism, by not feeling bound to be faux-coy, by not feeling I ever have to do anything I’m uncomfortable with, and ALSO knowing I’m allowed to say and do things as I please (obviously with mutual enjoyment and comfort) and that these things have no reflection on the ‘type’ of girl I am.
Furthermore, TBO and I have been together for almost two years. We go 50/50 on everything, and I do mean everything. I once shouted us a big expensive dinner, and he once did the same. We look out for each other, and there is no expectation of doors being held, restaurant bills being paid, or flowers in exchange for sex. So it thoroughly shits me when she just ‘accepts’ that dickhead man’s assertion and the one bloody example she has to ‘prove’ that feminists want equality with benifits.
AND I would also ad to that that the pay discrepancy thing is a real issue. At my uni they used to hold feminist barbecues where men paid a dollar and women paid 60 cents…that’s right, to reflect that women earned 60 cents in the dollar as compared to men. I honestly think that in long term financial arrangements that earning discrepancy needs to be accounted for for the arrangement to be truly equal.
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fuckpoliteness
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Let’s just take a moment to note that that survey concluded that male partners of feminist women reported “more stable relationships and greater sexual satisfaction”. HOLY CRAP – you mean the ‘crazy angry feminists’ are NOT demanding shrews who want to prostrate men before them and withhold sex? Wow. (Eyeroll)
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KM
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Yes, yes, a thousand times yes on the point that identifying as feminist actually helps your sex life!
I always used to feel that as a girl I was playing a no-win game where dating and courtship were concerned. Really attracted to a guy and sleep with him right away? Tramp. Want to wait for a bit to see how the emotional/intellectual connection goes first? Princessy game-player making the guy jump through hoops. It’s almost as if the goalposts are continually being shifted so that when things don’t work out, that no matter how we played it, it’s our fault.
And oooh, I get so annoyed when people bring feminism down to something as ridiculous as holding doors open. Sometimes my partner holds the door for me, and sometimes I hold it for him, and I see it as less to do with ‘chivalry’ than as a simple gesture of consideration – as in; “I care about you and your happiness and wellbeing, so I will do this little thing to make your passage through the day a bit easier.” And sometimes SHOCK HORROR either one of us will hold the door for COMPLETE STRANGERS, in an effort to contribute to the general social lubricant that prevents us, as a society, all going crazy and killing each other in a free-for-all shooting spree.
And seriously, feminism or no, I would say any person of either gender who is perfectly capable of holding a door or treating a loved one to a nice dinner now and then, and refuses to do so, is just kind of a jerk. No reason to not call a spade a spade!
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Linda Radfem
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I’m not sure where the door-opening concern originated, probably from some fundie american shockjock which is where a lot of those anti-feminism memes came from, according to Susan Faludi. But it is alive and well and here is an example:
In a class on social policy just last year, a female student, school-leaver age, actually raised this issue thinking it was a legitimate scholarly argument against Feminism. This person was/is one of the top students in my course, an intelligent person who takes her studies very seriously. Thus is the power of male hegemony. Seriously scary shit.
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Blogaddict
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I usually try to take a swipe at Sams warped version of pop feminism (she doesn’t know the meaning of the word – or at least she struggles with the concept), but the censors usually don’t let the posts go through. They’re really censor-happy down at the SMH blogs these days.
I will try post link to this on the Ask Sam website though – Sam brett is in sore need of educating on feminism (would you mind?)
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fuckpoliteness
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Hey, look in general I don’t mind (also applies to the Devine article), except that in the cases of Ask Sam/Sam deBrito, it will likely bring a tango line of aggressive anti feminists this way. Each of whom will believe that if I do not drop everything to respond to his AMAZING and REVOLUTIONARY anti-feminist arguments that QED – DUMB FEMINIST BITCH, or that if I don’t publish their demented conspiracy theories/personal attacks on women that I am CEN.SO.RING. I tire of these fools very quickly.
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KM
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Linda – SRSLY?? A legitimate scholarly argument?
Man, I have NEVER in real life seen anyone get yelled at by an Angry Feminist for holding a door open, just as I’ve never seen anyone get their Feminist Club membership card shredded for wearing lipstick.
FP – you go! ‘Free Speech’ does not translate into allowing whoever into your personal webspace to write crap that you find offensive. I’d kick people out of my house for saying that kind of shit – is that censoring too?