May 21, 2009 A little shout out to my laptop who tried valiantly to save me
A little shout out to my laptop who attempted to save me from a terrible fate this morning. High in the right hand corner of today’s SMH I noticed the Devinely Bigoted Ms M was issuing a rallying call to all men: it said something like “It’s time for men to come to the defence of violent sport and the men who play it”…or something even similarly testosterone worshipping and bizarre.
I knew it would seriously “damage my calm”, but I held my breath and went to click and…my laptop battery died so the computer shut down and I was prevented from foolishly giving in to my curiousity on impulse and ruining my own day.
Of course, when I got to work and powered up I read the fucking thing.
Apparently Miranda feels that Johns lost his job because the feminists are in control of the media, and they (feminist media controllers) believe in gender as a construct which is obviously a far more dangerous notion than ‘boys will be boys’ and will lead to pissing in public being remarked upon and that is OBVIOUSLY far more dangerous than girls getting gang raped.
It’s an utterly bizarre article in terms of its logic and consistency (I’m sorry computer, you tried valiantly to save me but I have a self destructive streak).
Somehow feminists are to blame for raunch culture and getting girls to value their hotness and appeal to men over their own sexual fulfilment (um…what?), for de-manning the men (cos again, there’s so MUCH evidence that mens power and machoness has disappeared) the medias tendency to a good old fashioned lynching (cos we control it – SEE how feminist mainstream media is??), the decisions of football clubs (cos the feminists control sports and sports clubs too dontcha know?) and Willie Mason’s inability to take a piss in a back alley without condemnation (I’m actually *not kidding*). In the land according to Miranda a feminist STORM erupted over Willie Masons urinary habits and we DEMANDED his career in payment for the greivous insult to feminism his public pissing represented.
In the world according to Miranda, if feminism were truly about equality we’d have let that mother who pinched a beer mat rot in jail in a foreign country, because THAT is the same as 12 grown men taking advantage of a 19 year old girl – and THEY are in jail now so…oh…wait, where was I? Oh yeah, it’s all feminists fault.
Killing off rugby league isn’t going to stop men being aggressive and sexually motivated.
Well it’s lucky for the feminists that their main argument is not Stop Football Stop Rape isn’t it?
In fact, such games are the few outlets boys have left for excess physical energy.
Ah yes, the old pop-psych ‘boys are more physical and need to run around more and damned feminised society asks that they not rape and murder when they’re not allowed a quick jog in the office or star jumps in the classroom’ chestnut.
In sanctioned team violence on the football field, young men can test their courage and express what it feels to be male, to have testosterone surging through young bodies, building huge muscles and attack instincts for which society has little use any more.
Does anyone else have an urge to vomit heartily at this drippingly romanticised idealisation of maleness? PLEASE! A question for the science folk. Does testosterone build muscles? And now you’re telling us it DOES produce attack instincts thus making an argument that sport *is* potentially a problem in producing instincts for aggression and violence? Immediately before you tell us that sport DOESN’T make boys violent but teaches them to control that violence:
It is teaching them, not to be violent but how to control their violent urges.
Ah, but then, see we have that pesky FACTUAL problem of a serious and ongoing culture of aggression and violence and disrespect of women that has led to rape and glassings and other forms of violence.
That makes your bar mat stealing comparison seem a wee bit fucking silly doesn’t it?
She’s then on to the whole ‘ADD is not real, kids just need to kick the shit out each other’ lies.
Feminism is also responsible for popular culture, which is wierd when you think about it, since feminists spend so much time examining popular culture and discussing all the problems with it, all the ways in which it is anti feminist. You’d think we’d set it up more to our liking wouldn’t you? But in the deranged conspiracy theorist’s mind I guess it just makes sense – after all feminists like to be miserable!
Popular culture today presents a narrative in which the liberalisation of sex has travelled on an inevitable continuum from the 1960s to some Brave New World free-for-all where Huxleyan teens engage in clinical couplings in which the only things to be negotiated are safety and consent.
What? And I…wait, WHAT??? Clearly safety and consent is NOT being negotiated, and we weren’t talking about mutual teen activity there we were talking a large group of fully grown MEN who FAILED UTTERLY to engage with safety and consent (safety and consent being from the feminist perspective a bare fucking MINIMUM for sex – for good sex we require more, and if you think that needs to be clinical to happen then that’s your own lack of imagination).
Where once girls were told that sex without emotional attachment would leave them feeling hurt and used, now such ideas are regarded as judgmental and moralistic. Instead girls are taught the most anti-woman thing of all – to judge their worth and the worth of others by “hotness” – that is, how sexually desirable they are, even if they are only 12.
You cannot be even remotely SERIOUS in trying to pin that shit on feminists for fuck’s sake. The fetishisation of young women’s bodies? Yeah masculine culture has NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT! It appears from the stats that men, and not feminists, are the ones having difficulty accepting that adults fucking twelve year olds is rape and that their porn appetites for pre teen porn is an indulgence of THEIR obsession with young girls bodies rather than women’s.
Feminism doesn’t teach girls that they are moralistic and judgmental if they want an emotional connection as part of sex at all and you know it. It teaches them to be aware of their own bodies and pleasures, to have sex when and how they want to – to not feel like ‘sluts’ if they *want* sex which is motivated from lust, boredom, desire, curiosity or many other factors even if it is not seen as ‘aprropriate nice girl within-hetero-monogamous-relationship sex’. There’s a radical difference between the two.
The ensuing chaos in the mating world stems from this disconnect between what popular culture tells girls and boys they should want and how it really makes them feel.
Watch yourself Miranda, you’re almost making feminist arguments there. And again I take the time to point out – popular culture and its messages? Feminists aren’t controlling it or profiting from it are they?
In the end, men’s drives aren’t all violent and predatory [that‘s right – again, lucky that is not a tenet of feminism nincompoop]. Most have a deep, possibly hard-wired, desire to be noble and chivalrous [oh…ok – from whence to you produce this assumption? And what do noble and chivalrous mean?]. That’s why in situations such as the Port Arthur massacre, so many men died shielding their wives or women around them [really? Or is it love? The same love that makes women shield their lovers/children/friends?].
Chivalry was once the province of the fighting man – the knight in shining armour who behaved with gallantry, honour and courtesy on the battlefield and off [except all that pesky raping] and was always proud to help the weak and defenceless [again the urge to vomit – are you basing your arguments here on history or Mills and Boon novels]. But decades of androgynous feminism have stamped on chivalry, deriding men who opened doors or stood back for women as being sexist and patronising [way to have a nuanced and sophisticated analysis].
It would have been better for women if feminism had appealed to men’s better natures.
You mean like treating them as fully human? As capable of great decency as well as depravity? Of urging them to be well rounded humans because we know they can be? Or expecting them not to rape and beat because we *don’t* think men are all the same and biologically driven but can make choices? You mean like what feminism ACTUALLY does rather than your sick caricature of a straw feminist?
Dude. When Peter Fitzsimons can both love competitive football and clearly state that the culture in Australia is rife with misogyny and violence and you can only blame feminists for the unfairness of it all, you really know the problem is well and truly YOURS.
Tags: feminist blaming should be an olympic category so deVine wins something, Miranda Devine, SMH, stealing a bar mat is in no way equvalent to gang rape you giant pork chop
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Tricky
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I think she and a few other opinion writers have a serious mental disorder that needs treatment.
http://cognitive-psychology.suite101.com/article.cfm/right_wing_authoritarianism
Easy to pick was you know the symptoms. 🙂
This guy wrote a good book about it – free e-book now (Explains A LOT)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Altemeyer
Also an interesting study
Right-Wing Authoritarianism and Rape Myth Acceptance in Female College Students
Click to access KoestererHoffman.pdf
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shinynewcoin
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Great post.
I liked the Live Science study you linked to too. Shame they didn’t analyse it any more than the even division of labour at home/two breadwinners trope.
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Beppie
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I knew that you would rant mightily on this one. 🙂
I had to laugh at the urinating in the street thing — isn’t it only a couple of weeks ago that she was clutching her pearls over women doing the same thing after a night out? Of course, Willie Mason was just relieving his natural manliness, which has to be channelled into outlets like public urination because evil feminists won’t let him open doors anymore. Whereas women urinating in the street — that’s just wrong.
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Linda Radfem
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Oh Miranda, if we were controlling the media then you wouldn’t be in it!
Re: Peter Fitzsimons. He said that? Excellent. I’m reminded of an email I sent him a couple of years ago in which I had a bit of a subtle whinge over the dudecentricity of his and other talkback radio shows. His response was surprisingly open to the criticism. Could he be considered an ally at all?
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Alan
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Miranda tested new depths of idocy in her column but it was so bad that it should be read as satire. Then it is hysterically funny.
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Wah
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You were too polite – Divine is an A-grade fuckwit who can’t see that what people were objecting too here is not rugby league, but any culture which treats women as some kind of material reward and condones sexual assault.
The boys will be boys attitude that has forgiven this sort of thing in the past has come back to bite the NRL in the arse.
If Devine doesn’t think that you can’t be a rugby player and respectful to women, than what does it say about the male members of her family who have played the game. Perhaps now we know why she’s so bitter and stupid.
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batteries
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you are as bad as her. got a whiff of something and ranted like the blazes. my political bent is far more down your end than hers, but while i didn’t agree with everything she said, i wasn’t so blinded by misplaced rage that i decided to rant against things that aren’t there. the word feminism appears once. feminist doesn’t. neither do these things, featured in your rubbish “feminists are in control of the media, and they (feminist media controllers)”. further, she is not saying half of the things that you attribute to her in that wonderful snidey way of yours. you may say that i’m not reading between the lines, and to that i would say that you are not reading. take a breath and try again. you aren’t all wrong but you are only damaging your arguments and muddying the waters. self-satisfied illconcieved tripe.
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Linda Radfem
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Just had a quick look around that Pure Poison site and it looks pretty ok. Added it to my favs.
Wah, I’m not sure “bitter” is quite the right word. It is too often employed in miso ways to demonise and ridicule feminists and feminist thought, but is rarely or never used to describe a man, however misguided and idiotic he may be.
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mehitabel
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Next time, listen to your inner laptop.
Great post, loved it.
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Linda Radfem
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“but while i didn’t agree with everything she said, i wasn’t so blinded by misplaced rage that i decided to rant against things that aren’t there.”
So what you’re saying here, batteries, is that somebody responded to an idea in a way that is different to the way that you would have responded, and that causes you to become distressed?
Have you considered that there are many of us who highly value the way that FP deconstructs these arguments and are cheering her on in her “ill-conceived tripe”?
The fact that you are posting here right now tells me that you are probably more aligned with The Enemy than you like to think.
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fuckpoliteness
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Hi Batteries, I’m fuckpoliteness. Can I get you anything while you’re here? Some glasses with which to read my tagline perhaps: Fuckpoliteness – Political ranting and humour.
Ranting as a word only figured once in that sentence,but like feminist bashing in the Devine article I was discussing it’s just all THROUGH my blogsite. Guess you really taught ME something there by calling me a ranter now didn’t you?
You know which paragraph tips me off that the bug up DeVine’s arse is feminism?
This one:
You always know when zealotry creeps into a story there is another agenda at work – and that is that the Johns case is a beachhead in the war against masculinity, waged by those who think the only difference between men and women is cultural.
Beachhead. War. Against masculinity. Excuse me if I think the pot is calling the kettle a zealot.
You know what the funniest thing is? You pissing your pants and stomping your feet about my ranting and self satisfied tripe…in a spectacularly snide self satisfied rant.
Hey – maybe we’re twins. Except I’d rather use my energies to call well paid mainstream media writers on feminist bashing bordering on rape apologism rather than ‘Hey, you said stuff that has good politics but you used a rude tone of voice you big meany’
Her writing is shithouse, her logic is crappy, her politics are appalling. Maybe I’m the same, except that my politics are calling for the elimination of violence and accountability of actions whilst hers seem to be calling for the right to piss in public (for men).
Anyway, thanks for stopping by.
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Helen
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Great post. Plz to send to the SMH and try and get them to publish it, while the Miranda article is still current.
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aelo
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In sanctioned team violence on the football field, young men can test their courage and express what it feels to be male, to have testosterone surging through young bodies, building huge muscles and attack instincts for which society has little use any more.
Thanks for that, Miranda. Its kids like yours, with ‘attack instincts’ that make teenage boys like mine refuse to be involved in school sport. He’s happy about the big teenage boy muscles, but he’d rather go rock climbing than go head to head with some thug who in his words ‘uses all this hormone crap to make bullying sound like masculinity.’ Strangely enough its the bullies on the field that don’t seem to know enough to leave it there, either. Maybe the issue here is less about masculinity and more about learning to behave?
It would have been better for women if feminism had appealed to men’s better natures.
Ah chivalry. When you give one half of the population all the resources and control and let them dole it out to the other half in very small doses, in a manner that makes them feel like God.
Actually I prefer the right to make my own decisions, house myself, earn my own money, make decisions about my own health. People’s ‘better natures’ are notoriously unreliable, and often self interested.
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BenP
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The fascinating thing is that Miranda APPEARS to be saying that men are being aggressive and abusive because society won’t let them be aggressive and abusive.
I can only say “appears”, because the day anyone, including Miranda, actually knows what the hell she’s trying to say will be a momentous day indeed.
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Mindy
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Excellent post FP. I admire how you can keep going back to the cesspool that is the rantings of Devine Miss M.
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Blogaddict
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I was too busy having an aneurysm to think of a coherent response to the latest installment of Mirandas odious idiocy. Happily you’ve done it for me. Though I did pick up on her own confusion about football being both an outlet for aggression and an excuse as to why the macho dickheads can’t behave within the law when they’re off-field (glassing, raping etc.). I also found her family context interesting – maybe explains a lot of her male centric attitudes?
Thanks for this – this cheered me up.
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Blogaddict
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Actually, I’ll second the other poster who suggested you send something like this to the SMH. If you don’t mind I’ll email Miranda a link to this site?
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Lara
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Thank you. MD upsets me far too much, it’s much healthier to laugh at her.
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skink
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you might want to look at Patti Chong’s Fairfax blog.
if you are in the east, you will not know or care who the feck Patti is. In the west we know who she is, and we are embarrassed about it.
Edited to add: I held onto this comment for a while, just as the link is so inflammatory. I get that that’s your point, but I had to stop reading as it was making me furious. So readers, click the link at your peril
http://blogs.watoday.com.au/theverdict/2009/05/johns_pays_the.html#comments
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Mark
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I need your laptop to teach mine some tricks. Her article blaming the Victorian bushfires on greenies, and suggesting they be hung up from lamp-posts nearly caused me an aneurysm.