September 4, 2008 More Devine Bullshit
Oh lookout! Miranda Devine, hard hitting investigative journalist is on the trail of the nasty feminists.
OH NO!!! Feminists do not blindly and uncritically support Sarah Palin as the Republican nominee for Vice Presidency. And she is a WOMAN! How DARE they be such utter hyprocrites!
She attributes the “excoriation” of Palin over this last week to feminists: this despite the fact that feminists have been keeping a strict eye on the instances of sexism directed against Palin, objecting strenuously and articulately to her being reduced to a VPILF, to her being ripped apart and assessed over her family choices/sex life/vicious personal rumours, in fact to anything directed against her that is not a fair discussion of the issues she supports/issues relevant to her potential role as VP:
Feminists stand up for Palin’s rights to be treated as a real life, actual candidate to be taken seriously (and boy is she taken seriously, her politics are disturbing):
Here, here and here at the Australian feminist blog Hoyden About Town
Here, here, here, here,here, and here at Shakesville. That’s right six times on this blog, three on Hoyden’s. (Wait, more sexism watches at Shakesville here, and here).
This is from just two feminist sites, in what – a week?
In my readings of feminist sites (I think I’ve linked to about six or seven sites in all in this post) I have not come across one ‘excoriating’ Palin, or having a go at her on the basis of her personal life.
Disagreeing with her and finding her stance on important issues repellent and cause for grave concern does not equal excoriation. The other issues facing Palin that Devine raises (and accuses feminists of perpetrating) – the rumours over the pregnancies, the affairs, claims she *breaths fire* are not, generally speaking coming from feminists but from mainstream, gossip peddling ‘news’ publications, like Miranda’s own SMH which has been steadily running front page gossip articles about Palin over the last few days.
Devine argues that Palin’s reaction to baby Trig being perfect in her eyes should be cause for applause, that her management of her family and professional roles should be admired, that she is personally fascinating being a moose-hunting mamma, that she’s about to break the glass ceiliing. She manages to imply that it is feminists who want to deny her her choices in life, the feminists who ask if a mommy really should be allowed such a time consuming job, the feminists leading the attacks over her personal life, the feminists starting rumours. Devine says feminists assert without evidence that Palin is a homophobic anti-choicer, but the one bit of ‘evidence’ she uses to ground these claims that it is feminists doing all this is a quote. From the New York Times…I’d link you to that article, but Devine didn’t bother so I can’t. I don’t know what the article was, but a quick headsup Miranda: one NYT quote (even *if* written by an actual feminist) does not sum up feminists positions on and problems with Palin. Please see the links above and below. (Oddly enough these both manage to defend her right to be treated as a candidate, and not to be disrespected and annihilated by rumour, and simultaneously to point out issues with her politics! Feminists managing to not be one dimensional! Who’d a thunk it?)
Basically it’s the usual codswallop from Miranda, but you know, for real! It’s the mainstream media in fact going to town on Palin’s personal life, it’s the mainstream media asking if a mommy should be allowed a big job like this, the mainstream media who disrespect her choices – as to the feminists, I’d argue the position is: It’s great for Palin to have so many choices – it’s a shame she wants to deny life choices to others. And *that’s* what it’s all about Miranda.
So for feminist/left wing discussions of the *actual* opposition to/issues with Palin (AND for more writing about the frustration over the rumours/discussions of Palin’s personal life/love life/family life) coming from feminists/the left more generally, see posts and comment threads here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here*, a great collection of links here, here, here (that one’s a Times article)…ok, you get the point right? Cos I’m going crosseyed. The point is there are many many feminist/left wing posts on the valid concerns over Sarah Palin’s politics, and the prospect of her being the Vice President. So far not *one* of them has been about “I’m just not sure a *mommy* should be VP” or based on the rumours.
[Edited to note that I will add more links as I come across them…the thing is they’re multiplying extremely quickly, so if you follow the links, you’re likely to come across links on those links, and so on…enjoy. ALSO!! It has been noted over at Hoyden that while the feminists are still saying “OFF LIMITS” to bagging Palin out over personal life stuff, that there are quite a number of ‘progressive male’ bloggers doing so. So I need to add that caveat to my proclamation that the feminists and the left more generally have steered clear of this shit.]
Tags: 'journalism'...ahem, Devine's femmo bashing again, feminist issues with Palin, Miranda Devine, Miranda Devine wouldn't know her arse from her elbow re, Palin, SMH
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Bene Gesserit Witch
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Not to be Amerocentric, but I feel I have the right…has she ever met an American in her life? Ever?
Or did she get her ideas about American women and politics from the occasional West Wing episode and Gilmore Girls?
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fuckpoliteness
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I’d wager Leave it to Beaver is more up Devine’s alley for *good old fashioned family values*.
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Bene Gesserit Witch
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Wait, axe the Gilmore Girls, make that Sex and the City instead.
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beppiek
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Came across from Hoyden About Town.
I normally avoid reading Miranda Devine, but I read this one– your takedown of it is excellent. Devine seems to think that we should like Palin and agree with her policies simply because she has a vagina– that anything less is mean and nasty. But then again Palin and Devine are two of a kind.
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fuckpoliteness
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Awww Bene, I *enjoyed* Sex and the City! (I know, I know!)
Beppie K (That’s fun to say!)
Yeah, that seems about it. Quit your WHINING you femmo biatches! She HAS a vagina – and she used it in the *right* way and all! 5 babies!!
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hellonhairylegs
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Nice.
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fuckpoliteness
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Why thank you Hell On Hairy Legs!
I had rather a lot of fun putting it together, I have to say, and was glad I’d read the stuff about how the only reason Palin vetoed the bill was the *legal advice that it was unconstitutional and would negatively impact HER* prior to reading the Devine article – that’s where I had the brain snap over the blatant misinformation being dished up to smack feminists around with.
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Rachel
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Both my local news and ABC news last night made a big issue of whether Palin can be both a mom and a veep. Who cares? I want to know more about her stances on the issues and how she plans to run this country (into the ground, I suspect) should she be elected veep and, should McCain run afoul of the grim reaper, president (so help us). I don’t see feminists discussing the ‘Mommy Wars’ or if Palin can handle both; it’s the financially ailing media and the conservatives who are doing a fine job of this. I might also mention, it’s not liberals or feminists who are also keeping mention of her pregnant daughter in the news, either. Who was the one who announced her daughter’s pregnancy to the world? Who was the one who organized photo opps of her daughter and her daughter’s boyfriend with McCain? Oh, right. Sarah Palin, herself.
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fuckpoliteness
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Yeah, it’s crazy – she’s a nightmare candidate for feminists, and YET we defend her right to be treated *as a candidate*, not as *mommy who shouldn’t be playing with the big boys*, not as a rumour mill, not as sex on legs…we defend this right as important to be extended to all women.
Meanwhile the mainstream media do a number on her for all the personal stuff…and then we both get the candidate from hell AND the blame for her poor treatment. Grr.
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Bene Gesserit Witch
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Don’t worry, fp, I enjoyed SatC too. Well, the first few seasons, anyhow. (That said, it’s not exactly an accurate representation of American life. I know everyone KNOWS that, but with screen culture it’s easier said than done–think about how your imagination makes the 1940s black and white.)
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fuckpoliteness
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You mean if I moved to New York, wrote a column on love/sex that I would NOT have Carrie’s wardrobe!??? Land of hope and promise my rear end! ;p
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Bene Gesserit Witch
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That was really my big thing with that show. I could never entirely suspend my disbelief that she’d even be able to pay the rent in Manhattan, much less buy the occasional pair of Blahniks.
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fuckpoliteness
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Oh, there are *stacks* of issues with the show, but for me, I think a show that allowed a female character to say (in one episode): “He can amuse MY bush!” and “Ladies, I’m gonna need a napkin to dry off my seat! That waiter is HOT!” is worth a few cheers! Men are allowed to be overtly sexual in their speech with no one going apoplectic, but when it’s a woman! I LOVED that episode! But (I’m sure you’ll be surprised given my pseudonym) I’m a sucker for women ‘thumbing their noses’ at ‘ladylike’ speech and behaviour.
Hmm…we seem to have drifted a fair way from Devine’s article and Palin’s politics. 🙂
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apublicblogging
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Devine has been up my nose for years now. She’s actually American, I believe. Went to Columbia.
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fuckpoliteness
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Wow. I hear that’s a good school…do they directly teach “Poorly Written Op Ed Writing for The Right” or do you think that was a skill she honed after college?
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Bene Gesserit Witch
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Actually, according to Wikipedia, she got her master’s in journalism at Northwestern, which is considerably more conservative than Columbia. Prolly picked it up there.
She was born in the US but grew up worldwide. We won’t lay claim to her!
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fuckpoliteness
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Sigh. And then she came here…shit.
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